Prime Minister Keir Starmer joins Pete Wicks on his podcast 'Man Made'

Pete Wicks has interviewed Prime Minister Keir Starmer for a special episode of his Rayo Original podcast ‘Man Made.’

The exclusive conversation, recorded at 10 Downing Street as part of Men’s Mental Health Month, sees the Prime Minister open up about the biggest challenges facing young men today and reflect on masculinity, fatherhood, grief and being the “man in charge".

If you haven’t tuned into 'Man Made' yet, Pete chats to musicians, presenters, actors (and now, politicians) about modern masculinity, men’s mental health and what qualities make a ‘good’ man. This episode has been released ahead of the highly anticipated second season of the podcast, which will be returning in January 2026.

Listen to the interview now on Rayo, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts.

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What does the Prime Minister talk about?

On the current biggest challenge facing young men, and especially teenagers, the Prime Minister said “it would probably be the difficult search for a role model.”

“People like Andrew Tate and that sort of person become quite attractive to young men … on one level, that gives them a sense of being successful, being rich and famous. On the other hand, it comes with a whole baggage of misogyny and toxic division. Steering young men away from that path to a different path is quite tricky.”

“To give young men a sense of worth is really hard. I think a lot of the other challenges around what young men get up to, what they think and how they behave probably hangs off that central question of ‘who am I’ and ‘what's my role’. Generations ago that was quite easily answered. It isn't now, and that's a challenge.”

The Prime Minister talks candidly about how his understanding of masculinity and male role models was shaped by his father when he was growing up – and how this changed after he became a father.

"My kids have changed me as a person, as a man and my sense of what it is to be a man," he said.

The PM also reflects on how he coped with the tragic loss of his brother Nick, discussing for the first time his experience being by his side when he received his lung cancer diagnosis and how he coped running the country through such a difficult personal time.

"This is the hardest thing about my job,” he shared. “When something intensely personal happens and you just need a space, particularly with grief in my view, and yet there isn't really the space ... it's intensely difficult".

How can I listen to the episode?

You can listen to the episode on Rayo, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts.

How can I listen to previous episodes of Man Made?

All episodes from season one, including powerful interviews with the likes of Yungblud, Olly Alexander and Sam Thompson, are available via the above platforms.

When is Man Made returning for season two?

The podcast returns in late January 2026. To stay up to date, follow Man Made on Instagram, TikTok and YouTube.

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